
The Flying Dutchman - Tim van der Veer finishing the 2010 78k Swiss Alpine Ultra Marathon in Davos in a very tidy 10 hours
Last weekend writer, Oxfam brand manager and deadly Dutch long distance runner Tim van der Veer took some time out to speak to Running the Distance in a quick fire Q & A session. Tim is a regular columnist for the Dutch version of Runner’s World and is currently in the process of writing his first book, funnily enough, about running and why we step outside to get a sweat on. Check out his anecdotes and pearls of wisdom below:
RTD: What first got you interested into long distance running?
TVDV: When I was 10 years I played football for a totally anonymous little club called V.V. Hekelingen. We had the same shirts as Ajax; so much for our (borrowed) fame. Part of the training was doing a yearly Cooper Test: 12 minutes running, see how far you come. We did laps around the training field. I ran as fast as I could. After a few laps, I had no idea who was in the lead, where I was. I actually thought that I was somewhere last, felt bad and tried to speed up. In a corner of my eye I saw my mother who was wildly cheering for me. What was that all about? Please mum, behave normally, it’s bad as it is, I thought. Than the whistle blowed and our trainer came to me. He had a golden moustache and a big smile hanging under it. I had won. From that moment on, I started running. And enjoyed it. Looking in retrospective, I think also because it helped against the moderate form of asthma that I have. You can read about my first training here: http://www.runnersweb.nl/Nieuws/Nieuwsbericht/Disconnect.htm (in Dutch)
RTD: You are the father of two young children and hold down a very demanding job, when the hell do you find the time to run?
TVDV: I’ve become a real magician in managing time for training. When I didn’t have any children, I always trained when I came home from work. Leaving my poor girlfriend alone, without dinner, until 20.30 in the evening. How selfish I was. When I got my boys, I started to think more creatively. I have trained 30K’s during my children’s naps, leaving the key and baby phone with the neighbours. My family sometimes drops me from the car when we are driving home: last 15KM by foot. When the colleagues are chewing on the famous dutch kroketten, I sneak out the office, do 10KM, shower and eat healthy stuff behind my desk: I’ll tell you I am the freshest colleague during the afternoons. For Oxfam I travel and the world and I can tell you a thousand anecdotes of running in different cultures. But my biggest invention was to simply take my children with me. I bought a bike car. My boys sit in the car and I push it. They make music, talk or sleep. Or we go to the Magic Tree: http://www.runnersweb.nl/Nieuws/Nieuwsbericht/De-toverboom.htm I now believe that running and training can be a social event……….
RTD: You have run several marathons to date, which one has been the best experience and why?
TVDV: Although each marathon, each race, maybe even each training is unique, from my 13 marathons I would probably choose Boston. The fact that you need to qualify, you know that the runners are really top-notch. I was seriously impressed when I saw all those skinny athletes at the start. The pace was tremendous at the beginning. And, although I think that it’s all very artificial, Americans are the best supporters you can find. Not like the Dutch, who only stare at you like you are some weird monster from space.
RTD: Many of your marathon finishing times have been under the magical 3hrs, what’s your secret?
TVDV: There is no secret. First of all, you need discipline. I have seen many physically talented people; potentially stronger, faster, better than me. But you need mental power to train 3 months and to complete your training in the way it should be done, no matter the circumstances. Discipline is underestimated as an important precondition for running fast. Second, calculate. Finding the right pace is crucial. Third, be prepared to change something. If you haven’t achieved to run under three hours yet, don’t do the same training next time. Change something. Learn.
RTD: You recently did your first ultra marathon in Davos, Switzerland, what possessed you to
take on the 78k alpine challenge? Would you ever do another one?
TVDV: When I read Born to Run by Christopher McDougall, I was blown away. All of a sudden, I wanted to run trails and preferably barefooted. Than a friend from London called me: fancy a run? With this innocent question, he dragged me into an exchange project between Western and Nepali runners. Our goal was to train together and learn from each other. And prepare ourselves for a rather crazy ultrarace: the Swiss Alpine, K78. I was already working on an idea to write a book about universal values of running and I thought this was the perfect “hook” for the book. A prestigious Dutch publisher was wildly enthusiastic and promised me to publish the book. So I inscribed myself… And it was best the run I have ever done. Yes, if I don’t get hit by a bus, I will run another ultra. (But don’t tell my girlfriend)
RTD: What are your running goals for the coming months?
TVDV: To enjoy myself. I have not set a particular goal yet. I still do as much as during the whole training. But after 6 months devotion to a specific goal, I am enjoying my free runs very much, going out without any gadgets. Just run…
RTD: What advice would you give to runners out there preparing for their first marathon?
TVDV: My advice is to seek advice. When I did my first marathon, I had no clue about training, eating, drinking, preparation, tapering or pacing. Over the last month I have helped a friend, who was going to climb the Alpe D’Huez with a scooter (step) for a good cause. She had trained very hard but had no clue at all about the basics of training and endurance sports. For me it was very easy to support her with my experience. When she reached the peak after 3.15 hours, she texted me that she felt fabulous and that she couldn’t have done it without my help. I think that she could have but she wouldn’t have felt fabulous. Seek advice.
RTD: Has writing for Runner’s World given you the urge to write your first book about running?
TVDV: No, writing has always been part of me before I joined Runner’s World. I also write about other things than running. Have a look at one of my first columns about my son’s respect for men with moustaches: http://timvanderveer.blogspot.com/2007/03/de-man-snor-de-man-snor-de-man-snor.html
RTD: If you could have a pint with a famous long distance runner, who would it be and why?
TVDV: I am very lucky that I have met my idol: Haile Gebreselassie for an Oxfam campaign against dumping, which is a very unfair way of trading that puts people in poverty, I have dumped about 40 kilo of coffee beans on the head of the emperor of running. Unfortunately, there was no time of a real conversation. After the shoot he immediately stepped in his blinded car and drove off in the streets of Addis Ababa. I would have liked to understand more about him; does he love running, or is it a job, how is it possible what he does? But preferably not with a pint of beer. Running through beautiful Ethiopia with the legend himself…….
And finally,
RTD: Seb Coe or Steve Ovett?
TVDV: I had to google both of them. Saw that Seb Coe supported the conservative party. So, Steve Ovett…
RTD: Water or strange-tasting sports drink?
TVDV: Water.
RTD: Road running or trail running?
TVDV: Trail running.
RTD: Ice bath or too chicken?
TVDV: Swimming in the sea. Best end of any run….
Cheers,
Running the Distance
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